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In an episode of The Kelly Clarkson Show, Kelly Clarkson and Serena Williams shared their experiences with body shamers and how they stand up to haters.

Serena Williams and Kelly Clarkson are putting their foot down when it comes to body shaming.

In a recent episode of The Kelly Clarkson Show, the tennis champion and singer opened up about their experiences dealing with criticism towards their body.

“I’ve always had to stand strong for myself with my body image in the public eye, and I love that you’ve always done that,” Clarkson told Williams. “You are so body positive.”

Williams responded: “I love that you’ve always done that. It’s so cool. One time I think you went off on somebody. I was like, ‘Oh.’ I loved you for it.”

“Was that the British chick?” Clarkson said, referring to a 2015 incident when UK reporter Katie Hopkins criticised the singer’s weight on Twitter. Clarkson had responded to the Tweet in an interview with Heat magazine at the time saying, “I’m awesome! It doesn’t bother me. It’s a free world. Say what you will.”

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“I was like, ‘Look, I ain’t got time for you over the pond,'” Clarkson told Williams. “I got enough people hating on me over here!”

The Grammy Award winning artist then continued to explain to Williams what inspires her to stand up against body shaming.

“What makes me mad about it, it’s honestly not how it’s said to me — it’s rude and obviously, nobody likes to hear it — but it’s because other women and other little girls are looking out there and they’re bigger than me and they’re going, ‘If they think she’s this way, then what does the world think of me?’” the 38-year-old said. “The domino effect of that is so detrimental for people’s psyche and especially nowadays with young women on social media … it’s just so hard.”

She added: “That’s why I feel like I have to keep talking about it every once in a while and stand up. I try to do it in a comedic way and keep it light. But well, sometimes you just gotta shut ’em down.”

Williams had her back: “Well I don’t think you kept it light. That was not light, but whatever you say.”

In a previous interview with Harper’s Bazaar UK, Williams opened up about the derogatory comments towards her body and race that she receives from the public eye.

“It was hard for me. People would say I was born a guy, all because of my arms, or because I’m strong. I was different to Venus: she was thin and tall and beautiful, and I am strong and muscular — and beautiful. But, you know, it was just totally different.”

Despite the criticism, Williams went on to say why she refuses to let other people’s perceptions affect her.

“I’ll never be a size 4! Why would I want to do that, and be that? This is me, and this is my weapon and machine,” she told the publication. “I can show Olympia [her daughter] that I struggled, but now I’m happy with who I am and what I am and what I look like. Olympia was born and she had my arms, and instead of being sad and fearful about what people would say about her, I was just so happy.”

Amen.

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